Halo 3 Co-op

[FrkUout]

It has been leaked that the Halo 3 Co-op will be offline only. apparently Bungie knows that the masses want an online co-op but stated that there could be situations in the game where the player cold be a mile apart so that poses a challenge for them during online play.

To me that seems like a bunch of crap. I'm sure there are other games out there that probably have a similar set-up that have on-line co-op. Gears of War did it and there isn't any problems. I would imagin that if the scenario above could happen online then it should definitely happen offline so what's the difference really? The boxes getting unsync'd during the game play due to the amount of action happening? I guess that's possible but I don't see that as a limiting factor.

What do you think?

[SpartanProject2]

that blows major...i was looking forward to 4 player online co-op

[Zangief]

I have to say I am dissapointed.

[SpartanProject2]

what if they make co-op only levels

make a different playlist just for co-op. so that way they can control co-op mode


or co-op missions


i would rather have 1 or 2 levels being co-op then no co-op at all

[Zangief]

It probably a time constraint thing. If they had another 6 months or something I'm sure they could make it work. But they have comitted themselves to September 25th.

[SpartanProject2]

i read some post on bungie

and basically its because halo3 is going to have the biggest battles with 100's of people fighting

and in co-op if one guy is fighting a fight and a mile away your team mate is fighting another then it becomes to much for a basic internet connection to support

other games worked because the battles weren't that big and because you couldn't be miles away from your team mate...
GOW at every check point some thing would happen to block you from going back...like a building would fall or something would break to force you and your team mate to move on with each other. The maps were also really small

[Hellion II]

You get split up in GoW's campaign multiple times.

I think they are just making excuses.

[Roggie]

When you're split up, you aren't very far apart, except maybe one spot.

People would rather play and get split up then have no co-op online.

[Chief (n7x Dominance)]

also in gears i have never seen more than 1 or 2 fights with 10+ enemies

hell i may have never even seen ten enemies on screen just once

and roggie has a good point, you are never far from each other when split up.
the farthest you may be from your partner is a couple hundred feet.

[FrkUout]

I still think it's bull. They knew from the beginning that people would want to play online co-op. They've have since directly after Halo 2's release to figure out a way to make it work but yet Bungie chose to ignore the masses. So what if the maps are smaller! How many people are actually going to play co-op on the local machine. I can say without a doubt that it'll be far less than those who would have played it online. Thanks again Bungie!

The only good thing that came out of that article was that there's a possible remake of lockout and some new weapons.

=edit=

here's the article link...sorry about not posting it before

www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=168397

[calico]

gay. dont make the two players so far apart then. its cooperative for a reason, not split single player campaigns.

[Hellion II]

A flare? So dumb. For anyone who has read the books, they know that MC's visor darkens to block any brightness out.

and a remake of Lockout. One good thing so far. Almost makes up for a remake of Zanzibr.

[FrkUout]

This is from Daveastation at teh SOL web site. He found some interesting tid-bits in the article authors blog. Check it out:

So, upon further investigation, I came across Jeremy Parish's 1up Blog:

He's the guy that wrote the article that people have gathered the "information" from that allegedly puts Co-op in Halo 3 as Chris has posted above.

But, Jeremy is a bit miffed by the whole situation. Hit the link above and read it for yourself. Just to put the story in the correct context, Jeremy said:

Jeremy Parish wrote:
So you obsessive Internet-using types have probably noticed, between poring over leaked scans of Harry Potter book seven, that certain information from the next issue of EGM has begun circulating the Internet. This is despite the fact that the next issue of EGM has not yet actually left the printer's. The next issue of EGM will therefore be remembered as "The Deathly Hallows Issue."


He continues a bit later...(he spent a little time complaining about the internet mongers)...

Jeremy Parish wrote:
Except... Bungie hasn't actually denied or ruled out online co-op in Halo 3. What the developers -- Frank O'Connor in particular -- did say is that they're still working on it. They're trying to surmount the technical challenges that are preventing co-op from being as polished as the rest of the game. They know people want it. They want to add it. But as of our interview with them, a month ago, it hadn't come together yet in a satisfactory manner. That doesn't mean it won't happen, and in fact they'd like to make it happen. But they won't include a half-baked implementation.

Personally, I suspect they'll get the kinks worked out -- and even if the game doesn't ship with online co-op out of the box, that's what updates are for. But that's my speculation, which you shouldn't confuse with facts. In this case, the facts are that Bungie wants to include online co-op and is working toward that end.


clearly, if the conversation that took place where this information was exchanged happened a month ago, there has been progress toward the end that Bungie has had in mind all along.

So, hopefully, Bungie will continue working toward that end and we can stop cursing them out for web-vultures providing us with half-information.

I think Jeremy's main goal with clarifying his story is to give us a better impression of the attitude that Bungie has.

Thanks Jeremy.

I'm still a huge skeptic that it'll be there. They've had 2+ years to make sure it was there and worked well and now near the end they're almost giving the "we're sorry" to us. Some people think that they could possibly patch Halo 3 to add it later but I submit this for consideration; if they could patch it in, why didn't they do that for Halo 1?

If I remember correctly, Bungie said it'll take too much coding for the massive changes to make Halo 1 available on live. One would have to assume that would include online co-op. That makes me believe that it the changes to Halo 3 couldn't be made either.

[Hellion II]

Bungie is lazy.

They don't listen to the people, they listen to the Bungie forum n00bs, whose opinions are horrible.

[FrkUout]

Bungies take on the rumor in this weeks weekly update:

Co-op Hokey Pokey

The Internet’s hair was lit on fire this week and in between running around the kitchen screaming and waiting for the faucet to fill up with the cool water of logic a bunch of hair got torched. Have you ever smelled burnt hair? We’re not recommending you go out and try and A) burn your own hair or B) burn someone else’s hair, but just take our word for it – the smell of burnt hair is the smell of a thousand failures being vomited from the gullet of a tentacled creature hiding in a wet hole. It’s gross.

We didn’t start the fire, but a series of reports that spread from an unfortunate leak of an upcoming issue of U.S. enthusiast magazine Electronic Gaming Monthly spiraled out of control and suddenly reports on the Internet included salacious headlines like “Halo 3 Co-Op Heads Offline” and heads needed to be dipped in ice water in order to prevail.

All we confirmed to EGM for their sweet, mind-twitterpating Campaign reveal (and other massive feature reveal) regarding Cooperative Play in Halo 3’s Campaign is that System Link co-op will be included in Halo 3. Just like we told EGM, we’re aware that people want co-op online but the challenge of getting our complicated A.I. systems, huge game world, and gargantuan encounters neatly packaged and transferring across the Interwebz is a mythic undertaking. Nonetheless, like other elements of Halo 3, online co-op is a feature we’re wrestling with somewhere in a muddy and muggy Florida swamp against a ton-toothed Alligator, but, what we haven’t really talked about is how big the knife we brought to the wrasslin’ match is.

All that said, EGM doesn’t really know whether or not Halo 3 will ship with online co-op, only Bungie knows. The only thing they did know is that co-op was available for split-screen and System Link. As we approach the tail end of development, we will have a clearer picture of whether or not that online feature will be included. Assuming either way would be foolish at this time. We will say more when we feel it’s prudent. Because that’s how we roll.

The full article can be found here:

www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=12669