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Post by SpartanProject2 on Dec 17, 2006 20:32:09 GMT -8
hey solid  u say that u can only know love when your old and gray and have been in a relationship for a great amount of time.. well... wouldn't u need experience for yourself to know what high school love and older love is or how they compare with each other.. you cant really state a point if u haven't been on both sides of an argument... yes there are alot of relationships that come and go really fast but there are alot of relationships that stay together for a long time... ;D |
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Post by Solid Đefect™ on Dec 17, 2006 21:26:51 GMT -8
well, i have experienced high school love... the difference is that you can look at older relationships and just plainly know.. even some of those are false however.
its common knowledge that you can love anyone at anytime. but there are many different kinds of love. you can even be married to someone and divorce them, and still love them. but besides that you got me wrong, i never said you have to be old and gray to love. its just that if you have found real love, there would be no need for relationship therapists. if you need a third party inorder to spend time with your significant other, its not love.
and your first "love" isn't a love at all... just an illusion.. and it means you just care for the person... like i said there are many diff types of love and far be it of me to know them all, or what they all feel like.. but its rather easy to spot true love.
so dont misread my perceptions as me being full of myself =P.... i spend most of my time thinking of such things...
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Post by TequilaDo on Dec 17, 2006 21:58:53 GMT -8
Dude how about we all stop argueing whether we know or don't know what love is. You can easily understand what love is once you've been with somebody long enough to get the feeling. Nobody can seriously explain what love is since it is basically a man made thing, just like time it has no real definition we made it up. I believe Dancin when she says that she's been in love, because i myself have to, i don't care how much you try to deny me of my own feeling but i know for a fact that i was and still am to this day.
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Post by Solid Đefect™ on Dec 17, 2006 22:04:25 GMT -8
>.> love isnt man made....just the word.. mostly everything on this earth has the feeling of "love" or a similiar feeling towards its companion.
but hey think whatchu want.
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Post by TequilaDo on Dec 17, 2006 22:05:51 GMT -8
Animals do not feel love. What their "love" is, is instinct.
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Post by Solid Đefect™ on Dec 17, 2006 22:29:57 GMT -8
Love is an instinct.and most of the more intelligent animals and some insects mate for life.
but you've most definetly given me something to ponder about, thanks.
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Post by LuiGiPwns™ on Dec 17, 2006 22:45:40 GMT -8
Oh my god i had a huge argument about this semester, and you know all psychologist agree that humans do not have instincts. So no love is not an instinct, becuase it has a stimulas. An instinct is something that can't be taught, you have to know how to do it at birth, it is specific to members of a paticular species, and it has to have a pattern of response.
Off topic, but I personally feel like all behavior is caused from a stimulas except for drives. If you ask someone to give you an example of an instict they will give you an animal one. I think that we say that animals have instincts becuase we can't understand their motivation for doing things. But becuase we can understand ourselves (humans), scientist claim that humans do not have instincts. WTF
I just think that there are no true instincts, because everything is either taught, reinforced through conditioning, or driven by unmet biological needs.
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Post by TequilaDo on Dec 17, 2006 23:03:30 GMT -8
So your saying that if i run into a bear in the middle of the wilderness and kill it, it's not my instinct of survival kicking in but i was taught that?
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Post by LuiGiPwns™ on Dec 17, 2006 23:37:23 GMT -8
Your behavior wouldn't be an instinct, it would be behavior from fear, fear would be the stimulas for your behavior. An instinct is supposed to be something....., okay an example, a spider spinning a web is supposed to be instinct, birds flying north in the winter, etc.
To me these examples of instincts that professionals will give you are stupid becuase we don't understand animals fully and so who knows if there behavior is instinctual or caused by stimulas. I think its funny that we say that animals have instincts but humans don't, I think its we say that becuase we can understand our behavior. I think that by definition instincts are bullshit becuase all behavior is caused by a stimulas.
The bear situation doens't work becuase if you were to put a young child in front of a bear and if they had no reason to fear it (from being taught) then they wouldn't try to run or defend themselves. Unless of course the bear scared them, in that case any behavior would be from fear.
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Post by Solid Đefect™ on Dec 18, 2006 7:05:03 GMT -8
I don't believe any damn thing a psycholigist has to say about anything... all those guys are full of shit and you know it. ever been to one? cause i've been to many.
and how to you explain a mothers instinct?
or the sixth sense feeling?
or gaydar?
or even the fact that out of the womb a child knows who its mother is?
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Post by LuiGiPwns™ on Dec 18, 2006 10:55:00 GMT -8
Well, a mothers instinct, what is that exactly, I'm not sure what your talking about. If by that you mean a mother worrying and sometimes she's right and something bad has happend, then all i have to say to that is, a mother worries all the time and mostly she's more wrong than right.
Sixth sense feeling is bs, gaydar wtf, there are no signifigant studies that support any of these so called instincts. A child knows its mother becuase, before being born the child can smell its mother and hear her voice.
Remeber what an instinct is, look at my first post...
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Post by Solid Đefect™ on Dec 18, 2006 12:21:46 GMT -8
well your earlier
was completely off basis, which leads me to believe whoever taught you this is full of shit, or plainly don't know what they are doing. (in terms of "all psychologists")
=/ i really should have picked up on this earlier. nice debate though luigi i enjoyed it ^_^
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Post by SpartanProject2 on Dec 18, 2006 13:58:45 GMT -8
watch some guy who is looking for a manly clan and he finds our websight...then he looks at this topic of guys talking about love  ...we are losing customers.... anyway... i wouldn't say love is an instinct because if it was then we(humans)would fall for anybody...and u wouldn't have gay people in the world also.... g2g to work PS- i would say that love is more like a passion for someone, an irresistible affection for that person to be continued... |
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Post by Solid Đefect™ on Dec 18, 2006 14:42:13 GMT -8
*cough*
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Post by TequilaDo on Dec 18, 2006 14:42:22 GMT -8
I said animals version of "love" is instinct not ours. There are no gay animals, well that we know of i guess.
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...we are losing customers....